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[Roberto Sedinho]

Pop gère clairement les temps de jeu avec le match d'hier soir.

Howard qu'est ce qu'il est moche au lancer.

Grosse 1ère mi-temps d'Arenas.

Les Spurs vont faire un match de trainard comme d'hab en restant au contact dans le 3ème et en accelerant (s'ils peuvent) dans le dernier quart.

[macbath]

Y'a quand même eu quelques erreurs de la part des Spurs en 1ere MT. Essayer de passer toujours par Duncan pour forcer la 3e faute d'Howard les a perdus. Parker était chaud et n'a pratiquement pas joué du 2e quart-temps. Ginobili est affreux et accapare les ballons. Et là ils viennent de mettre Nelson sur le banc aux fautes, mais c'est pas un cadeau car Arenas est bien meilleur. Et puis la défense est horrible, 66% aux shoots pour le Magic en 1ere MT.

En face les recrues apportent beaucoup, surtout Richardson et Arenas qui va pas tarder à être titulaire. Et Howard se régale face à Duncan ou McDyess.

Bref la série de victoires devrait s'arrêter pour San Antonio, +19 là.

[Roberto Sedinho]

Splitter faut qu'il prenne de la masse s'il veut jouer Pivot en NBA, il explose à chaque contact.

[macbath]

Sinon dans l'avant-match sur TNT Charles Barkley a pété un câble, il a dit qu'il adorait Mike Pietrus (pas nouveau), qu'il le mettait dans ses 3 joueurs favoris de la NBA (ça change chaque semaine), et qu'il pouvait prendre son n°34 chez les Suns même s'il a été retiré

[HHA]

Bobcats, Blazers Discuss Wallace Trade

The Bobcats and Portland have discussed a trade that would send Gerald Wallace to the Blazers with center DeSagana Diop and point guard D.J. Augustin in exchange for center Marcus Camby and point guard Andre Miller.

"We're always monitoring how to improve our basketball team, and that hasn't stopped," Bobcats general manager Rod Higgins said in a conference call on Wednesday when asked about any potential trades. "We owe it to our community, our fan base, to try and improve. Part of the reason for this transaction (with Brown) is we haven't given up on the season and we want to try to get back into it, try to get back into the hunt.

"You have to think that we can get this team back on track with our team. Am I being naive? Maybe, but I firmly believe that this team is going to have an opportunity to get back on track."

[romano]

Y en a un qui va être content

[DimSet]

Bon Peyton si ca se fait, Miller contre Wallace ?

[Peyton]

Depuis l'arrivée de Silas (un historique de Charlotte d'ailleurs), y'a une rumeur tous les jours... hier c'est Baron Davis, Devin Harris () et là Miller. Pour cette dernière rumeur, je n'y crois pas trop. Le seul intérêt dans ce deal, c'est de se débarasser du contrat faramineux de Diop, et je vois mal Portland perdre Camby alors qu'ils sont courts niveau C. En tout cas, j'ai bien peur de voir Wallace partir. Mais l'arriver du nouveau coach change peut-être la donne sur ce point là.

En tout cas, la bonne nouvelle (ou pas), c'est qu'y a de grande chance qu'un trade se fasse. (D'ailleurs je me suis bien amusé à jouer au GM avec la trade machine d'Espn hier ). Reste à voir qui sera dans le deal. Et malgré les apparences, la course aux PO est loin d'être perdue. Les Bobcats avait un bilan quasi identique à la même époque l'an dernier... jusqu'au trade de Jax. Le timing est un peu similaire cette année.

[GI JOE]

A 18h ce soir il y a Knicks-Bulls sur Machainesport.

[HHA]

A 18h ce soir il y a Knicks-Bulls sur Machainesport.

Et Celtics-Magic à 20h30 sur C+ Sport.

[GI JOE]

Petite soirée sympa en perspective

[Oyé Sapapaya]

Et Celtics-Magic à 20h30 sur C+ Sport.

Y a pas le fameux lakers- heat sur Ma chaine sport ?

[DonTornado]

Y a pas le fameux lakers- heat sur Ma chaine sport ?

Pas sur le groupe Canal plus, je suis deg

D'ailleurs ya eu la petite boulette de Georges Eddy lors du dernier match, en voyant l'affiche Lakers-Heat il sort "Super match, a voir sur nos antennes!" , petit blanc de 5sec, et ta Xavier Vaution qui lui sort "non non ca sera Celtics-Magic"

Nouveau petit blanc.... " Oui c'est super aussi comme match...Magic-Celtics"

[Shalashaska]

Le league pass sera accessible pour ce match.

Kobe or LeBron king of crunch time?

Closer.

Assassin.

Cold-blooded killer.

Over the past few seasons, these labels have become synonymous with Kobe Bryant, the NBA's preeminent king of clutch. Time and time again, we have witnessed Bryant's heroics at the end of games. The Lakers star had a league-leading six game winners in the final 10 seconds of games in 2009-10, with his flair for the dramatic seemingly becoming a weekly fixture.

Bryant is, by all accounts, the player you want to have the ball when the game is on the line.

So why do the numbers say otherwise? Or, more to the point, why do they suggest LeBron James, not Bryant, has performed better in the clutch recently?

The hard data
To be clear, no two people will have identical opinions of when a basketball game enters the proverbial game-on-the-line territory. But if we stick to the generally accepted criteria of clutch -- thanks to the go-to crunch-time source 82games.com -- we draw the line at less than 5 minutes left in the fourth quarter or overtime, with the game within five points. Using those thresholds, we see some eye-catching facts: Despite Bryant's six game winners last season, James bested him in just about every statistical category down the stretch in clutch situations.

KOBE VS. LEBRON IN CLUTCH
Kobe LeBron
PER 37.6 47.2
Pts/40 44.5 48.1
FG% 43 pct. 45 pct.
Reb/40 4.3 10.9
Ast/40 4.3 5.6
Steals 1.6 2.1
Blocks 0 1.8
Here are the facts: James has posted a mind-boggling 47.2 Player Efficiency Rating while averaging 48.1 points on 45 percent shooting, 10.9 rebounds and 5.6 assists per 40 minutes in the clutch over the past two seasons. Bryant? He checks in at a 37.6 PER, with an average of 44.5 points on 43 percent shooting, 4.3 rebounds and 4.3 assists. Statistically, James outperformed Bryant on the defensive end as well, averaging 1.8 blocks and 2.1 steals. Kobe, on the other hand, has averaged 1.6 steals with no blocks in crunch time.

That's just an absurd level of production from both players, but James clearly has the upper hand. (And career-wise, James has the edge as well).

The team context
So the question then becomes: Is James selfishly piling up stats at the expense of his team's success?

It appears to be the opposite.

James' teams have outscored opponents by 126 points in his 228 minutes of clutch play, debunking the theory that James is merely a compiler of empty stats; his individual play has coincided with winning basketball. Bryant is another story. Even with far superior teammates than James' former Cavs crew, Bryant has posted a minus-13 plus-minus in his 224 minutes of clutch situations. That is to say, the Lakers have, quite shockingly, been a losing team with Bryant on the floor down the stretch over the past two seasons.

This is a critical point. Boiling down clutch performance to six last-second shots is an extremely narrow view of the game. The circumstance happens so rarely that it is virtually a trivial exercise in randomness. To put it in perspective, Bryant and James have played a combined 7,871 minutes over the past two regular seasons, and only 17 of those minutes were played when their respective teams needed a "big shot" (tied or trailing by no more than three points with the game clock at less than 24 seconds). That's 0.02 percent of the time.

These numbers reveal James' teams haven't needed last-second heroics because his monstrous late-game play pushes the close game out of reach, rendering a game-winning shot unnecessary. Houston Rockets general manager Daryl Morey once said, "Good teams don't win close games -- they avoid them." And the player who personifies that ethos is James.

The highlight reel conundrum
We can direct some of the blame to the construct of the highlight reel. As a game's CliffsNotes, highlight reels capture the awe-inspiring plays and dramatic game-changing events in snapshots. They give us the game-winning shot, but the rest gets tossed to the cutting-room floor. And the truth is, we don't get to see all the times a player fails in critical moments; we see only the ones when he succeeds.

Highlight reels, by design, help facilitate our inherent confirmation bias -- a fallacy of the human mind that causes us to remember what confirms our preconceived notions and throw out the contradictory evidence. Bryant holds the reputation as the game's most clutch player, and who are we to disagree when we see Bryant with a game winner seemingly every fifth day? No one has the time or the interest to watch all 96 of Bryant's missed field goal attempts in clutch situations since 2008-09. But those happened, and we need to account for them.


Also, there's a certain flair to Bryant's typical game winners that lends itself to immortality. We watch in anticipation as the ball leaves Bryant's fingertips on a contested perimeter jumper, which is the toughest shot in the game. But the degree of difficulty of the shot works both ways. When he hits the back-breaking shot, it is heroic. But when he misses, it is understandable. All of James' seven makes have come within 8 feet, while all nine of Bryant's makes have come outside 12 feet (he missed his only attempt inside 12 feet, a layup).

So as scorers, James and Bryant have different styles, and this certainly has a dramatic effect on how we remember them as clutch players. Bryant's outside game provides better theater, whereas James' bruising attack leads to comparatively sleepy trips to the free throw line. But they provide the same means to an end.

Ultimately, Bryant and James are two all-time legends, and it seems silly to boil their greatness to a few seconds of play. While the debate between LeBron James and Kobe Bryant will never die, the clutch badge has always rested on Bryant's sleeve. Now we're seeing that it isn't quite that simple.

If you want a game-winning shot, you might choose Bryant. But that happens no more than a handful of times per season.

If you want a player to carry the team down the stretch in the fourth quarter, we find that James, not Bryant, boasts the winning track record in the clutch.

Source : ESPN

[Oyé Sapapaya]

Le league pass sera accessible pour ce match.

Lien ?

[Shalashaska]

Lien ?

J'ai lu ça sur BasketSession (plusieurs personnes semblaient au courant) mais j'ai rien vérifié. Je me suis peut être emballé

Edit : Lien, c'est la source? ou le lien pour accéder au League pass? Si c'est ça, je suppose qu'il faille aller sur son compte NBA league pass.

Edit 2 : le league pass n'est pas gratuit finalement mais à 0,80€. Source : BasketUSA

Mieux, le NBA League Pass est à 0,80 euro entre le 24 décembre et le 1er janvier. On avait évoqué une journée gratuite mais finalement la NBA a opté pour une semaine à 0,80 euro.

[macbath]

Pour le League Pass y'a bien une journée gratuite à choisir entre le 25 et le 1er, mais je crois que c'est que pour l'Amérique du Nord...

Grosse journée de NBA comme tous les Noëls, ça fait plaisir

Par contre je vais lâcher les 2 derniers matches, encore Denver-OKC j'en ai un peu rien à foutre mais je jetterai ptet un coup d'oeil, par contre Blazers-Warriors sans feu Brandon Roy et surtout Stephen Curry ça perd tout son intérêt

Impatient de voir Lakers-Heat, le gros morceau de la journée, avec Bynum et Mike Miller en renfort de chaque côté, et Wade qui devrait être aligné. Je sais pas où en est Kobe de ses petits pépins, j'espère qu'il pourra sortir un gros match vu comme LeBron est chaud en face!

[MadininaScal]

Pfiou, j'ai bien envie de me laisser tenter par le League Pass vu la soirée NBA qui s'annonce...

Pour ceux qui l'utilisent souvent, ca fonctionne bien sur un PC portable? Et je précise que j'ai une connexion merdique, ca risque pas de poser problème?

[Philo]

Si c'est bien fait, la qualité d'image s'adapte au débit. Si c'est mal fait, ils envoient un flux de batard et ça ramera.

[GI JOE]

Y a pas le fameux lakers- heat sur Ma chaine sport ?

Il est diffusé sur Orange Sport